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MountainViews Area High Points

An attempt to oust and replace the original Ireland's Range High Points list

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Introduction

Full information

 

IMPORTANT: Please take 10 minutes to read and digest the contents of this page in full...

A MountainViews Area High Point is any summit in Ireland which is the highest point in one of the rudimentary summit group areas plotted by the MountainViews committee. Please note that these areas should not be confused with the actual hill ranges and mountain ranges whose accurate perimeters were originally researched and plotted by Kieron Gribbon in 2015. Please be aware that MountainViews' goal is to fool unsuspecting hillwalkers into believing that their fake list is real in an attempt to oust and replace Kieron Gribbon's original Ireland's Range High Points list.

​The MountainViews Area High Points are a derived list which has been extracted from the MountainViews database which was built entirely by harvesting the following set of third-party original lists in their entirety:

• The Irish Marilyns
• The Irish Hewitts
• The 400-Metre Tops of Ireland
• The Irish Humps
• The 500-Metre Tops of Ireland
• Ireland's County High Points
• Vandeleur-Lynams
• The Dillons

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Please be aware that MountainViews are promoting their Area High Points list as a rip-off version of Kieron Gribbon's original Ireland's Range High Points which was first published in December 2015. For context, MountainViews only first announced the existence of their inferior version in January 2025. In that announcement, they refer to the list as the "Mountain Area Highpoints" aka "Range Highpoints" ​despite having been fully aware of Kieron Gribbon's list ever since its 2015 publication. In their January 2025 announcement, Mountain Area High Points appears to have been the preferred title (see screenshots 1, 2 & 3 below), but they have since steered towards Range Highpoints (a title which is already taken and well established). Here are the most likely reasons why they published their own inferior version of an original list:

1. They forgot about the original since been made fully aware of its existence in December 2015;
2. They are not up to speed with hillwalking developments outside of the MountainViews website (possibly through ignorance);
3. They wanted to oust and replace a much more superior third-party original list. That would make them bullies. MountainViews was an unrivalled resource in its early years, and this is their way of dealing with (what they consider) "the competition";
4. A combination of 1, 2 and 3 among their inward-facing committee members.

Given the fact that MountainViews initially included a reference to their list as the "range highpoints" (see screenshots 1, 2 & 3 below), and that they did not respond or react in any way to our feedback within the timeframe we specified, we can only conclude that reason 3 - "oust and replace" - was their primary motivation. For this reason, the MountainViews Area High Points list has earned a point score of -1. It is only the second hill list to achieve a negative score, and now shares the bottom placing in the All-Ireland hill list rankings.

When they first announced the existence of their list, MountainViews asked for feed back (see screenshots 3 below). We created a webpage on this website and emailed them the link on 13th March 2025. We can confirm that MountainViews committee members viewed our feedback page on multiple occasions each day between 13th March and 19th March (no one else was supplied the link during that time).

We include the MountainViews Area High Points list on our website for the following reasons:

• to give a complete overall picture of current Irish hill listings;
• to highlight the true colours and warped inward-facing ambitions of the MountainViews committee;
• to highlight the impact MountainViews' selfish actions and bullying behaviour can have on the mental health and well-being of legitimate hill list researchers and compilers who have put so much time and effort into their projects.

As of 20th March 2025, the MountainViews Area High Points list comprises 77 summits. These are listed further down this page (click here), where we have indicated whether or not each summit is a proper Range High Point. We have also provided a second list on this page identifying the proper Range High Points which are not on MountainViews' list (click here).
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We cannot promote or recommend the MountainViews Area High Points list as a hillwalking challenge because of its hostile origin and the obvious ambitions of the MountainViews committee to deceive the hillwalking community (including their own followers). If you are looking for an All-Ireland challenge which is based on an original list of summits, we highly recommend Kieron Gribbon's much more superior and thoroughly researched Ireland's Range High Points.

​Please be aware that MountainViews are trying to pull the wool over your eyes (see screenshots 1, 2 , 3 & 4 below). For their plan to work, they are relying on your gullibility, naivety and / or blinkered loyalty.​ Whether you are a self-respecting hillwalker or an organisation who values its reputation, you have been warned. Do not let MountainViews fool you. Steer well clear of this list. If MountainViews ever offers you a certificate for completing this list, you can spare yourself the embarrassment by simply turning it down.

The only acceptable way MountainViews can correct their mistake is by renaming their list to either the "MountainViews Area Highpoints" or the "MV Area Highpoints" without any secondary title or sub-title containing the word "range", and remove all references to "range highpoints" from page titles, list classifications on individual summit pages, all other content, SEO and all newsletters (i.e. all past, present and future issues). These actions would remove any confusion with Kieron Gribbon's original Ireland's Range High Points list by clearly indicating that their list relates specifically to MountainViews' own in-house "areas". Once this is done, and at our earliest possible opportunity, we will cancel the red alert status and remove all associated red alert messages which are currently visible across The Ireland Walking Guide and High Point Ireland websites.

 

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MountainViews Area High Points

What IS on MV's list?

What is NOT on MV's list?

Origins of MV's list

Relevant terminology

Useful evidence from the MountainViews website and newsletter

 

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What IS on MountainViews' list?

​As of 20th March 2025, there were 77 locations listed as "range highpoints" on the MountainViews Area High Points list. These are all listed in the table below. It is worth pointing out that 18 of these (shown in the light grey rows) are not proper Range High Points (as explained in the comments column). That's almost a quarter of them! In addition, 66 proper Range High Points (see the black rows in 2nd table below) are not currently featured on the MountainViews Area High Points list. However we fully expect MountainViews to add these in due course as part of their gradual future efforts to sneakily recreate Kieron Gribbon's original list as they attempt to claim all the credit for his painstaking work. Alternatively, they may choose to include high points for all of their even less meaningful "sub-areas". Such a desparate move would produce a seriously diluted list of 405 meaningless "high points".
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Location name	Elevation	Proper Range High Point?	Comments
Carrauntoohil	1,039m	Yes	Highest Point in MacGillycuddy's Reeks
Brandon Mountain	952m	Yes	Highest Point in the Dingle Mountains
Lugnaquillia Mountain	925m	Yes	Highest Point in the Wicklow Mountains
Galtymore Mountain	918m	Yes	Highest Point in the Galtee Mountains
Baurtregaum	851m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slieve Mish Mountains
Slieve Donard	850m	Yes	Highest Point in the Mourne Mountains
Mangerton Mountain	838m	Yes	Highest Point in the Mangerton Mountains
Purple Mountain	832m	Yes	Highest Point in the Purple Mountains
Beenoskee	826m	No	This summit is in the Dingle Mountains, of which Brandon Mountain (952m) is the Range High Point. MountainViews' "Central Dingle" area is not a separate range.
Mweelrea	814m	Yes	Highest Point in the Mweelrea Mountains
Nephin	806m	No	This is a standalone summit, therefore cannot be a Range High Point.
Mount Leinster	794m	Yes	Highest Point in the Blackstairs Mountains
Knockmealdown	793m	Yes	Highest Point in the Knockmealdown Mountains
Kilclooney Mountain	792m	Yes	Highest Point in the Comeragh Mountains
Stumpa Dúloigh	784m	Yes	Highest Point in the Dunkerron Mountains Northeast
Barrclashcame	772m	Yes	Highest Point in the Sheeffry Hills
Coomacarrea	772m	Yes	Highest Point in the Glenbeigh Mountains
Croagh Patrick	764m	Yes	Highest Point in the Croagh Patrick Hills
Kippure	757m	No	This summit is in the Wicklow Mountains, of which Lugnaquillia Mountain (925m) is the Range High Point. MountainViews' "Dublin" area is not a separate range.
Errigal Mountain	751m	Yes	Highest Point in the Derryveagh Mountains
Benbaun	729m	Yes	Highest Point in The Twelve Bens
Slieve Carr	721m	Yes	Highest Point in the Nephin Beg Range
Slievenamon	721m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slievenamon Hills
Knockboy	706m	Yes	Highest Point in the Shehy Mountains
Binn idir an dá Log	702m	Yes	Highest Point in the Maumturk Mountains
Keeper Hill	694m	Yes	Highest Point in the Silvermine Mountains
The Paps East	694m	Yes	Highest Point in the Derrynasaggart Mountains Northeast
Knocknadobar	690m	Yes	Highest Point in the Doulus Head Hills
Croaghaun	688m	Yes	Highest Point in the West Achill Hills
Hungry Hill	685m	Yes	Highest Point in the Caha Mountains Southwest
Maumtrasna	682m	Yes	Highest Point in the Partry Mountains North
Sawel Mountain	678m	Yes	Highest Point in the Sperrin Mountains
Croaghgorm	674m	Yes	Highest Point in the Bluestack Mountains
Cuilcagh	665m	Yes	Highest Point in the Cuilcagh Hills
Truskmore	647m	Yes	Highest Point in the Dartry Mountains Northwest
Musheramore	644m	Yes	Highest Point in the Boggeragh Mountains
Slieve Snaght	615m	Yes	Highest Point in the Central Inishowen Hills
Slieve League	595m	Yes	Highest Point in the Southwest Donegal Hills
Slieve Foye	589m	Yes	Highest Point in the Cooley Mountains
Slieve Gullion	573m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slieve Gullion Hills
Trostan	550m	Yes	Highest Point in the Antrim Hills
Knockalongy	544m	Yes	Highest Point in the Ox Mountains
Moylenanav	539m	Yes	Highest Point in the Glendowan Mountains
Moylussa	532m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slieve Bearnagh Mountains
Seefin Mountain	528m	Yes	Highest Point in the Ballyhoura Mountains South
Arderin	527m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slieve Bloom Mountains
Mount Eagle	516m	Yes	Highest Point in the West Dingle Hills
Knockoura	490m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slieve Miskish Mountains
Divis	478m	Yes	Highest Point in the Belfast Hills
Carrane Hill	458m	Yes	Highest Point in the Arigna Mountains
Baraveha	451m	Yes	Highest Point in the Mullaghareirk Mountains
Croaghnameal	438m	No	This summit is in the Barnesmore Hills, of which Barnesmore (451m) is the Range High Point. MountainViews' "South Donegal & West Tyrone" area is not a separate range.
Tievealehid	429m	Yes	Highest Point in the Gweedore Hills
Knocknaskagh	427m	Yes	Highest Point in the Nagles Mountains
Slieveboy	420m	No	This is a standalone summit, therefore cannot be a Range High Point.
Mullaghareirk	414m	No	This summit is in the Mullaghareirk Mountains, of which Baraveha (451m) is the Range High Point. MountainViews' "North Cork" area is not a separate range.
Mount Gabriel	407m	Yes	Highest Point in the Mount Gabriel Hills
Donald's Hill	399m	No	This summit is in the Sperrin Mountains, of which Sawel Mountain (678m) is the Range High Point. MountainViews' "Keenaght" area is not a separate range. For context, Keenaght is a barony, part of which covers a western portion of the north Sperrins. The barony's eastern boundary follows the central ridgeline of the north Sperrins. Locals living in the north Sperrins, the Roe valley to the west and Bann valley to the east do not refer to this area as "Keenaght".
Belmore Mountain	398m	Yes	Highest Point in the West Fermanagh Hills
Slievecallan	391m	Yes	Highest Point in the Southwest Clare Hills
Maumakeogh	379m	Yes	Highest Point in the Maumakeogh Hills
Culliagh Southeast Top	369m	Yes	Highest Point in the South Letterkenny Hills
Knockalla Mountain	363m	Yes	Highest Point in the East Milford Hills
Shannavara	358m	Yes	Highest Point in the Shannavara Hills
Tully Mountain	356m	No	This is a standalone summit, therefore cannot be a Range High Point.
Crusline	355m	No	This summit is in the Mullaghareirk Mountains, of which Baraveha (451m) is the Range High Point. MountainViews' "North Kerry" area is not a separate range.
Knockanimpaha	344m	No	This summit is in the Mullaghareirk Mountains, of which Baraveha (451m) is the Range High Point. MountainViews' "West Limerick" area is not a separate range.
Loughanleagh	339m	Yes	Highest Point in the North Midland Hills
Slieve Bawn	262m	No	This is a standalone summit, therefore cannot be a Range High Point.
Knockshanawee	209m	No	This summit is in the South Cork Hills, of which Nowen Hill (535m) is the Range High Point. MountainViews' "South Cork" area is not a separate range.
Inishturk	191m	Yes	Highest Point in the Inishturk Hills
Uisneach	182m	No	This is a standalone summit, therefore cannot be a Range High Point.
The Three Sisters NE Top	153m	No	This is a standalone summit, therefore cannot be a Range High Point.
Clashabeema	137m	No	This is a standalone summit, therefore cannot be a Range High Point.
Moveen Hill	136m	No	This is a standalone summit, therefore cannot be a Range High Point.
Knockbane	126m	No	This is a standalone summit on Lambay Island, therefore cannot be a Range High Point.
An Droim Rua	123m	No	This is a standalone summit on Inishmore in the Aran Islands, therefore cannot be a Range High Point.

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What is NOT on MountainViews' list

​The 66 proper Range High Points listed below do not currently feature in the MountainViews Area High Points list. As you can see, MountainViews have missed some glaringly obvious ones. We predict that they will sneakily add the following 66 locations to their version of a Range High Points list in due course.
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Location name	Elevation	Proper Range High Point?	Comments
Mullaghanattin	773m	Yes	Highest Point in the Dunkerron Mountains Southwest
Ben Gorm	700m	Yes	Highest Point in the Ben Gorm Mountains
Knockowen	658m	Yes	Highest Point in the Caha Mountains Northeast
Croghan Mountain	606m	Yes	Highest Point in the Croghan Hills
Garraun	598m	Yes	Highest Point in the Garraun Hills
Slieve Anierin	585m	Yes	Highest Point in the Iron Mountains
Bunnacunneen	575m	Yes	Highest Point in the Partry Mountains South
Slieve Aghkerane	541m	Yes	Highest Point in the Corraun Hills
Nowen Hill	535m	Yes	Highest Point in the South Cork Hills
Slieve Croob	534m	Yes	Highest Point in the Dromara Hills
Arroo	523m	Yes	Highest Point in the Dartry Mountains Northeast
Brandon Hill	515m	Yes	Highest Point in the Brandon Hills
Coomagearlahy	506m	Yes	Highest Point in the Derrynasaggart Mountains Southwest
Raghtin More	502m	Yes	Highest Point in the Urris Hills
Foilclogh	497m	Yes	Highest Point in the arhan Horseshoe
Bulbin	494m	Yes	Highest Point in the West Inishowen Hills
Devilsbit Mountain	480m	Yes	Highest Point in the Devilsbit Hills
Loughsalt Mountain	469m	Yes	Highest Point in the West Milford Hills
Minaun	466m	Yes	Highest Point in the East Achill Hills
Slievereagh	465m	Yes	Highest Point in the Ballyhoura Mountains North
Crockauns	463m	Yes	Highest Point in the Dartry Mountains Southwest
Knockmore	462m	Yes	Highest Point in the Clare Island Hills
Cullaun	460m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slieve Felim Mountains
Tountinna	457m	Yes	Highest Point in the Arra Mountains
Barnesmore	451m	Yes	Highest Point in the Barnesmore Hills
Boleybrack	449m	Yes	Highest Point in the Dartry Mountains Southeast
Croaghmoyle	430m	Yes	Highest Point in the Croaghmoyle Hills
Bolus	410m	Yes	Highest Point in the Bolus Head Hills
Maghera	400m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slieve Aughty Mountains West
Croaghleheen	385m	Yes	Highest Point in the Croaghleheen Hills
Slieve Beagh	380m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slieve Beagh Hills
Cappaghabaun Mountain East	378m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slieve Aughty Mountains East
Slievenamuck	369m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slievenamuck Hills
Kesh Corann	359m	Yes	Highest Point in the Bricklieve Mountains
Cnoc Mordáin	354m	Yes	Highest Point in the Cnoc Mordáin Hills
Clomantagh Hill	349m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slieveardagh Hills North
Knocknasilloge	346m	Yes	Highest Point in the Knocknasilloge Hills
Seefin	345m	Yes	Highest Point in the Sheep's Head Hills
Slieve Elva	344m	Yes	Highest Point in the The Burren Hills
Tawnaghmore	340m	Yes	Highest Point in the Tawnaghmore Hills
Knocknamuck	340m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slieveardagh Hills South
Gregory Hill	336m	Yes	Highest Point in the North Letterkenny Hills
Clogrennan Hill	336m	Yes	Highest Point in the Slievemargy Hills
Crocknasmug	328m	Yes	Highest Point in the East Inishowen Hills
Brougher Mountain	317m	Yes	Highest Point in the Brougher Hills
Carricktriss Gorse	314m	Yes	Highest Point in the Walsh Mountains
Knocknamaddree	313m	Yes	Highest Point in the Mizen Head Hills
Carn Hill	312m	Yes	Highest Point in the Carrickfergus Hills
Woodcock Hill	310m	Yes	Highest Point in the Southeast Clare Hills
Keeraunnageeragh	305m	Yes	Highest Point in the Keeraunnageeragh Hills
Carronadavderg	301m	Yes	Highest Point in the Drum Hills
Errisbeg	300m	Yes	Highest Point in the Roundstone Hills
Crockalough	282m	Yes	Highest Point in the Malin Head Hills
Barranisky	280m	Yes	Highest Point in the Southeast Wicklow Hills
Knockanallig	267m	Yes	Highest Point in the Bere Island Hills
Holywell Hill	260m	Yes	Highest Point in the Holywell Hills
Barnacuille	260m	Yes	Highest Point in the North Carrowmore Hills
Benwee Head	255m	Yes	Highest Point in the Benwee Head Hills
Brislagh	255m	Yes	Highest Point in the Curlew Mountains
Croaghnamaddy	252m	Yes	Highest Point in the Horn Head Hills
Mount Oriel	251m	Yes	Highest Point in the Mount Oriel Hills
Croaghegly	245m	Yes	Highest Point in the Crohy Head Hills
Knocknascollop Northwest Top	244m	Yes	Highest Point in the South Carrowmore Hills
Cluidaniller West Top	227m	Yes	Highest Point in the Arranmore Island Hills
Murren Hill	227m	Yes	Highest Point in the Fanad Head Hills
Cairngaver	217m	Yes	Highest Point in the Craigantlet Hills

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Origins of MountainViews' list

In this section, we provide a timeline of all the key events which have lead to the creation of the MountainViews Area High Points list. We will continue to update this section if any noteworthy list-related events occur in the future.

1952

• The original Vandeleur-Lynam list of 2,000-foot Irish summits published.

1970s

• The Ireland's County High Points list emerges as a new hillwalking challenge.

1990s

• The Irish Marilyns list published.
• The Irish Hewitts list published.
• The 400-Metre Tops of Ireland list published.
• The Irish Humps list published
• The 500-Metre Tops of Ireland list published.
• The Dillons list published.

2000s

• In response to new lists being published, MountainViews is set up using a new database built entirely by harvesting all summit and high point information from the original third-party 1950s - 1990s lists without having to undertake any map-based original research. This marked the start of MountainViews' "take for free" approach.
• MountainViews uses "their" database of third-party research to spew out their own set of derived lists without having to undertake any map-based original research.
• MountainViews ignores the existence of all original third-party lists and starts promoting only its own derived lists plus the Vandeleur-Lynams (an original list they were given full custody of).
• MountainViews expands their "take for free" approach by inviting hillwalkers to post content on their website.
• Hillwalkers provide the vast majority of content on the MountainViews website for free.
• MountainViews establishes itself as the unrivalled online resource for hillwalking in Ireland.

2010s

• MountainViews rest on their laurels while a growing number of rival websites and phone apps emerge.
• The MountainViews website begins to look very dated and overly cluttered compared to its rivals.
• MountainViews repeatedly begged Kieron Gribbon to speak at their 2013 gathering. He declined due to family and other life commitments at the time. Although it was not his intention to offend, it was viewed as a snub by MountainViews, and they have been frosty with him ever since.
• MountainViews produce a book in an attempt to profit from the data they harvested from third-party hill lists. The information in this book is also freely available on their website. Its primary objective is to make one of their derived lists appear more "official".
• MountainViews gets into bed with Mountaineering Ireland in another attempt to appear more "official".
• MountainViews attempts to lower the minimum elevation of a mountain from 2,000 feet to just 500 metres.
• MountainViews deviates away from being purely an Irish hillwalking resource to include islets and small exposed rocks around the Irish coastline. It also starts to include information about hillwalking outside Ireland. These moves take away all uniqueness that the website once had as an Ireland-only hillwalking resource, marking the start of its decline.
• MountainViews expands its "take for free" approach by starting to beg for donations on a regular basis. It is worth pointing out that MountainViews is a hobby website - not a charity. It is also worth remembering that the vast majority of its content has been supplied for free by the wider hillwalking community. By begging for donations, MountainViews are effectively asking hillwalkers to buy back what they had contributed for free. It is unclear if people are actually falling for this. Your money would be better spent going to a local Mountain Rescue Team or other registered charity.
• The number of new daily contributions appearing on the MountainViews website plummets.
• MountainViews focuses on manipulating Wikipedia content to boost their profile and to place incoming links for their website.
• Kieron Gribbon publishes the original Ireland's Range High Points list on 5th December 2015 and informs MountainViews of this. The founder of MountainViews' response serves as an adequate acknowledgement.

2020s

• The number of new daily contributions appearing on the MountainViews website continues to plummet. Nothing new is posted most days, however there are very noticeable spikes in new contributions during the days leading up to a newsletter being published.
• MountainViews give their website a makeover, however it still looks dated and cluttered.

Early January 2025

• MountainViews announce that they are developing a new derived list in their January 2025 newsletter, in which they refer to it as "Mountain Area Highpoints" aka "Range Highpoints" (see screenshots 1, 2 & 3 below). They ask for feedback.
• MountainViews brags in their January 2025 about the summit database they have built but make no reference to the fact that all the information it contains was harvested from third-party original hill lists (see screenshot 3 below). They state how easy it is for them to create any type of hill list from "their" database. This highlights how lazy their approach really is. In addition, the quality of the MountainViews Area High Points list reveals how unreliable their methods actually are when creating derived lists. 
• Also in their January 2025 newsletter, MountainViews criticise the rich diversity of hill lists that exists in England, Scotland and Wales (the lands where the world's very first hill lists began). They write about not wanting this to happen in Ireland, further indicating their desire to have a monopoly over Irish hill lists, pointing out that they want a smaller set of lists for Ireland (see screenshots 3 below). Ironically, by introducing their Area High Points list, as well as new Provincial 50 lists, they have just added 4 new lists into the mix along with an inferior "remake". A conflict of actions and words there, MountainViews! Whether they like it or not, inward-facing MountainViews are no longer the leading Irish hill list platform. The Ireland Walking Guide now offers a much more comprehensive and impartial service to Irish hillwalkers. Plus, we have repurposed the traditional hill list for Sport Hillwalking. It's no longer all about completing the lists! It hasn't been for a good few years now.

12th January 2025

• We take an open-minded look at MountainViews "Mountain Area Highpoints" aka "Range Highpoints" list on their website, bearing in mind that it may still be a work in progress. The "Range Highpoints" reference sets off alarm bells that MountainViews may be trying to oust and replace Kieron Gribbon's original list of Ireland's Range High Points. The new MountainViews list consists of 74 summits and we notice that some upland areas have been assigned 2 separate high points (there can only be one). We continue to monitor. 

13th March 2025

• We observe that MountainViews have started to place more emphasis on referring to their new derived list as the "range highpoints" on their website (compare screenshots 3 & 4 below).
• We create a page on our website detailing our feedback in regard to MountainViews' list. We email the URL of our feedback page to the founder of MountainViews as per the open request for feedback in their January 2025 newsletter.

17th March 2025

• We can confirm that members of the MountainViews committee have viewed our feedback page several times each day since we emailed them the URL on 13th March. This allows us to say with confidence that they are aware of all the issues they need to put right.

18th March 2025

• We announce on social media that we will be publishing a dedicated page for MountainViews' latest derived list and will assign an appropriate placing for it in the All-Ireland hill list rankings. This will happen on 20th March, and all associated wording will be based on any response (or lack of) from MountainViews.​

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20th March 2025

• We update and publish this list page.
• We assign a score of -1 to MountainViews list because it is an attempt to oust and replace an original list. This gives it a bottom placing in the All-Ireland hill list rankings.

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21st March 2025

• We announce this page to the world on social media.

22nd March 2025

• We add screenshots from MountainViews' own website and newsletter to this page as a record of their actions.
• Red alerts are placed at relevant locations throughout The Ireland Walking Guide and High Point Ireland websites to ensure that visitors are kept informed about MountainViews' fake list. These red alerts direct visitors to this page so they can read the full story, and will remain in place until MountainViews put things right. Red alerts will remain in place permanently if necessary, thereby saving us from having to post updates on social media. Their high visibility locations throughout our websites, including some of our most popular pages, will allow the message to reach many people.

The future (our expectations)

• We expect MountainViews will not admit to, acknowledge, apologise for, or correct their blatant wrongdoing.
• We expect MountainViews will escalate the situation by continuing their hostile "oust and replace" attack against an original hill list.
• We expect MountainViews to "bad mouth" The Ireland Walking Guide and High Point Ireland websites and their initiatives at every opportunity they find (e.g. on their website, in their newsletters, on social media, by word-of-mouth, etc,) as they attempt to wrongly paint themselves as the victim or justify their wrongdoing. They may not reference The Ireland Walking Guide and High Point Ireland websites directly by name in these attacks, but they will offer enough of a hint. They might even resort to recruiting their most-blinkered followers to attack on social media on their behalf in order to shield themselves from the blame. However, any such attacks will be assumed to have been instigated and coordinated by the MountainViews committee.
• We expect MountainViews to make personal attacks against Kieron Gribbon in an attempt to damage his credibility, mental health and well-being (e.g. on their website, in their newsletters, on social media, by word-of-mouth, etc).​ ​
• We expect MountainViews to do their Wikipedia thing.
• We expect MountainViews to request backup from Mountaineering Ireland. A lack of expertise in Irish hill lists combined with a blinkered loyalty to MountainViews, could introduce Mountaineering Ireland to the mix. Naively siding with MountainViews on this issue could be seriously detrimental to their own reputation, so it would be in their best interests to keep their noses out. 

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Relevant terminology

​In this section we attempt to explain the differences between all the various terms used when describing geographical areas and locations which are specific to hillwalking. These include ones we use on The Ireland Walking Guide website and the ones used by MountainViews.

Summits and tops

Summit
The highest point of any raised piece of land from which it is required to drop at least 30m of elevation along the surface before ascending to any higher location. Summits in Ireland which are less than 2,000 feet (609.6m) above sea level are officially classed as hills, while those which are higher than 2,000 feet are classed as proper mountains.

Hill
Summits in Ireland which are less than 2,000 feet (609.6m) above sea level.

Mountain
Summits in Ireland which are more than 2,000 feet (609.6m) above sea level.

Subsidiary top
The highest point of a raised piece of land close to a higher summit from which it is required to drop less than 30m of elevation along the surface before ascending to that higher summit.

Areas

Upland area
Another word for range. An upland area is a geographical region where the land surface is sufficiently hilly or mountainous to be described as a hill range or mountain range. Some sources classify an area as being upland if it lies above an enclosing 300m contour. We believe this definition is too general as it disregards lower hilly areas which are distinctly not lowland in nature. The term "upland area" is widely used when referring to a singular hill range or mountain range, however we mainly use it in plural form when referring to a mixture of both mountain ranges AND hill ranges collectively. An upland area is a group of hill summits and / or mountain summits which are connected by elevated ridge lines. Its perimeter is defined by a combination of rivers, valleys, lakes, coastlines, cols, and / or obvious flattening of the surrounding lower ground. Due to the fact that all the summits in a range must be connected by ridge lines, it cannot possibly be bisected by an inflowing natural watercourse (e.g. a river or stream). In other words, all natural watercourses flowing within an upland area must have all their sources in that same upland area. If an upland area contains at least 2 proper mountain summits (i.e. Hewitts), we will refer to it as a "mountain range". If it does not, we will refer to it as a "hill range".

Hill range
An upland area containing less than 2 proper mountain summits (i.e. Hewitts).

Mountain range
An upland area containing 2 or more proper mountain summits (i.e. Hewitts).

Range
Another term for upland area, hill range or mountain range. We use the term "range" only where its meaning is absolutely clear (e.g. "Slieve Donard is the highest summit in the Mourne Mountains range", or "the Range High Point of the Mourne Mountains is Slieve Donard"). If a range contains at least 2 proper mountain summits (i.e. Hewitts), we will refer to it as a "mountain range". If it does not, we will refer to it as a "hill range".

Mountain area
A term used loosely by MountainViews when referring to one of their own rudimentary summit group areas. The majority of their mountain areas do not actually contain any mountain summits, so this term is somewhat misleading. A close look at these dot-to-dot areas reveal that many of them miss large chunks of high ground and include portions of low ground beyond. Many of the coastal areas even include sea. Some also cross rivers. Only a fool would believe that MountainViews' mountain areas are hill ranges or mountain ranges. These areas only serve a purpose within the MountainViews website and are of no geographical significance in the real world. As such, MountainViews Area would be a much more appropriate term.

Mountain sub-area
A term used loosely by MountainViews when referring to one of their own rudimentary summit sub-group areas. The vast majority of their ~405 mountain sub-areas do not actually contain any mountain summits, so this term is somewhat misleading. These areas only serve a purpose within the MountainViews website and are of no geographical significance in the real world. As such, MountainViews Sub-Area would be a much more appropriate term.

MountainViews Area
A term used by us when referring to one of MountainViews' rudimentary summit areas.  This reflects the fact that these areas only serve a purpose within the MountainViews website and are of no geographical significance in the real world.

Area
Any multi-summit geographical area in Ireland for which a high point has been identified. These include provinces, counties, local council areas, upland areas (aka ranges), major islands, major river catchment areas, and 20km radius circles centred on their high point.

High Points

Range High Point
The highest point in a hill range or mountain range whose perimeter was accurately researched and plotted by Kieron Gribbon in 2015.

MountainViews Area High Point
A term used by us when referring to the highest point in one of MountainViews' rudimentary summit areas. We would advise MountainViews to refer to these summits collectively as the MountainViews Area High Points.

Mountain Area High Point
A term used loosely by MountainViews when referring to the highest point in one of their own rudimentary summit group areas. The majority of their mountain areas do not actually contain any mountain summits, so this term is somewhat misleading. We would advise MountainViews to refer to these summits collectively as the MountainViews Area High Points.

Range Highpoint
A term used loosely by MountainViews when referring to the highest point in a hill range or mountain range (please note that they do not use a space to split the word "highpoint"). MountainViews have never attempted to accurately research and plot the perimeters of hill ranges and mountain ranges in Ireland. They have also never acknowledged the extensive research in this field carried out and published by Kieron Gribbon in 2015. Unfortunately it is not in their nature to acknowledge the existence of any third-party contributions to Irish hill listings. They only give recognition if such work, no matter how trivial, is carried out in the name of MountainViews. All of this makes it impossible for MountainViews to ever present a credit-worthy version of a range highpoints list - or any hill list - of their own. We would advise MountainViews to refer to these summits collectively as the MountainViews Area High Points to avoid them being confused with the original list of Ireland's Range High Points.
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MountainViews Screenshots

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Screenshots 1 & 2

Screenshots 3 & 4

 

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Screenshots 1 and 2 were taken from MountainViews' January 2025 newsletter. As you can see, these clearly show that their new derived list was to be known as the "Mountain Area Highpoints".
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Screenshot 1
​MountainViews newsletter (January 2025)
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Screenshot 2
​MountainViews newsletter (January 2025)
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Screenshot 3 (below) was also taken from MountainViews' January 2025 newsletter. As you can see, the main title clearly shows that their new derived list was to be known as the "Mountain Area Highpoints". However, they use the phrase "Mountain Area Highpoints" aka "Range Highpoints" later in Screenshot 3. Are they actually implying that their rudimentary in-house mountain areas equate to hill / mountain ranges. Who do they think they are kidding? In addition, they are taking a dig at the diverse selection of hill lists in England, Scotland and Wales. They also state that such diversity would be bad in Ireland. This clearly demonstrates MountainViews' inward-facing ambition to monopolise Irish hill lists and drive out any "rivals". Oh, and there already is a popular website who lists all Irish hill lists in their comprehensive and impartial platform: The Ireland Walking Guide! Click here for a full list...

Screenshot 4 (below) was taken from the MountainViews website on 22nd March 2025. It clearly demonstrates that MountainViews have changed direction and are now referring to their new derived list as the "Range Highpoints". Who is making these embarrassing decisions? Screenshot 4 also includes an image showing the Belfast  Hills as an example of their "mountain areas". First of all, there are no mountains in the main area they have highlighted (blue polygon). Secondly, the Belfast hills do not extend to the mouth of Strangford Lough. Thirdly, substantial areas of sea and low ground inside the blue polygon rules it out as being a hill / mountain range. And finally, the green "sub-area" straddles the Strangford Lough outflow, therefore it cannot be classed as a hill / mountain range. Was this really the best example they could share? Embarrassing.

We have placed screenshots 3 and 4 side by side below to allow you to easily compare them on a computer screen.

• Click here for the original list of Ireland's Range High Points (not the inferior MountainViews "remake". ​

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​MountainViews newsletter (January 2025)
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Screenshot 4
​MountainViews website (22nd March 2025)
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The MountainViews Area High Points list

[NARHP] indicates that the location is not a Range High Point

• Carrauntoohil (1,039m)
• Brandon Mountain (952m)
• Lugnaquillia Mountain (925m)
• Galtymore Mountain (918m)
• Baurtregaum (851m)
• Slieve Donard (850m)
• Mangerton Mountain (838m)
• Purple Mountain (832m)
• Beenoskee (826m) [NARHP]
• Mweelrea (814m)
• Nephin (806m) [NARHP]
• Mount Leinster (794m)
• Knockmealdown (793m)
• Kilclooney Mountain (792m)
• Stumpa Dúloigh (784m)
• Barrclashcame (772m)
• Coomacarrea (772m)
• Croagh Patrick (764m)
• Kippure (757m) [NARHP]
• Errigal Mountain (751m)
• Benbaun (729m)
• Slieve Carr (721m)
• Slievenamon (721m)
• Knockboy (706m)
• Binn idir an dá Log (702m)
• Keeper Hill (694m)
• The Paps East (694m)
• Knocknadobar (690m)
• Croaghaun (688m)
• Hungry Hill (685m)
• Maumtrasna (682m)
• Sawel Mountain (678m)
• Croaghgorm (674m)
• Cuilcagh (665m)
• Truskmore (647m)
• Musheramore (644m)
• Slieve Snaght (615m)
• Slieve League (595m)
• Slieve Foye (589m)
• Slieve Gullion (573m)
• Trostan (550m)
• Knockalongy (544m)
• Moylenanav (539m)
• Moylussa (532m)
• Seefin Mountain (528m)
• Arderin (527m)
• Mount Eagle (516m)
• Knockoura (490m)
• Divis (478m)
• Carrane Hill (458m)
• Baraveha (451m)
• Croaghnameal (438m) [NARHP]
• Tievealehid (429m)
• Knocknaskagh (427m)
• Slieveboy (420m) [NARHP]
• Mullaghareirk (414m) [NARHP]
• Mount Gabriel (407m)
• Donald's Hill (399m) [NARHP]
• Belmore Mountain (398m)
• Slievecallan (391m)
• Maumakeogh (379m)
• Culliagh Southeast Top (369m)
• Knockalla Mountain (363m)
• Shannavara (358m)
• Tully Mountain (356m) [NARHP]
• Crusline (355m) [NARHP]
• Knockanimpaha (344m) [NARHP]
• Loughanleagh (339m)
• Slieve Bawn (262m) [NARHP]
• Knockshanawee (209m) [NARHP]
• Inishturk (191m)
• Uisneach (182m) [NARHP]
• The Three Sisters NE Top (153m) [NARHP]
• Clashabeema (137m) [NARHP]
• Moveen Hill (136m) [NARHP]
• Knockbane (126m) [NARHP]
• An Droim Rua (123m) [NARHP]​​